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Wednesday, 16 October 2024

The BBC’s 100 greatest British novels, and some top 5

What’s up with me and lists these days? I don’t know. Getting listless, I guess. But once in a while, I think it’s good to look at some lists and see the holes in one’s reading. 

The premise: “What does the rest of the world see as the greatest British novels?” 

I use a strikethrough for the books I have read. The tick is when I have seen a screen adaptation. 

100. The Code of the Woosters (PG Wodehouse, 1938)

99. There but for the (Ali Smith, 2011)

98. Under the Volcano (Malcolm Lowry,1947)

97. The Chronicles of Narnia (CS Lewis, 1949-1954) ✔

96. Memoirs of a Survivor (Doris Lessing, 1974)

95. The Buddha of Suburbia (Hanif Kureishi, 1990)

94. The Private Memoirs and Confessions of a Justified Sinner (James Hogg, 1824)

93. Lord of the Flies (William Golding, 1954) ✔

92. Cold Comfort Farm (Stella Gibbons, 1932) ✔

91. The Forsyte Saga (John Galsworthy, 1922)

90. The Woman in White (Wilkie Collins, 1859)

89. The Horse’s Mouth (Joyce Cary, 1944)

88. The Death of the Heart (Elizabeth Bowen, 1938)

87. The Old Wives’ Tale (Arnold Bennett,1908)

86. A Legacy (Sybille Bedford, 1956)

85. Regeneration Trilogy (Pat Barker, 1991-1995)

84. Scoop (Evelyn Waugh, 1938)

83. Barchester Towers (Anthony Trollope, 1857)

82. The Patrick Melrose Novels (Edward St Aubyn, 1992-2012)

81. The Jewel in the Crown (Paul Scott, 1966)

80. Excellent Women (Barbara Pym, 1952)

79. His Dark Materials (Philip Pullman, 1995-2000)

78. A House for Mr Biswas (VS Naipaul, 1961)

77. Of Human Bondage (W Somerset Maugham, 1915)

76. Small Island (Andrea Levy, 2004)

75. Women in Love (DH Lawrence, 1920)

74. The Mayor of Casterbridge (Thomas Hardy, 1886)

73. The Blue Flower (Penelope Fitzgerald, 1995)

72. The Heart of the Matter (Graham Greene, 1948)

71. Old Filth (Jane Gardam, 2004)

70. Daniel Deronda (George Eliot, 1876)

69. Nostromo (Joseph Conrad, 1904)

68. A Clockwork Orange (Anthony Burgess, 1962) ✔

67. Crash (JG  Ballard 1973)

66. Sense and Sensibility (Jane Austen, 1811) ✔

65. Orlando (Virginia Woolf, 1928) ✔

64. The Way We Live Now (Anthony Trollope, 1875)

63. The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie (Muriel Spark, 1961) ✔

62. Animal Farm (George Orwell, 1945)

61. The Sea, The Sea (Iris Murdoch, 1978)

60. Sons and Lovers (DH Lawrence, 1913)

59. The Line of Beauty (Alan Hollinghurst, 2004)

58. Loving (Henry Green, 1945)

57. Parade’s End (Ford Madox Ford, 1924-1928)

56. Oranges Are Not the Only Fruit (Jeanette Winterson, 1985)

55. Gulliver’s Travels (Jonathan Swift, 1726)

54. NW (Zadie Smith, 2012)

53. Wide Sargasso Sea (Jean Rhys, 1966)

52. New Grub Street (George Gissing, 1891)

51. Tess of the d’Urbervilles (Thomas Hardy, 1891)

50. A Passage to India (EM Forster, 1924)

49. Possession (AS Byatt, 1990)

48. Lucky Jim (Kingsley Amis, 1954)

47. The Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy, Gentleman (Laurence Sterne, 1759)

46. Midnight’s Children (Salman Rushdie, 1981)

45. The Little Stranger  (Sarah Waters, 2009)

44. Wolf Hall (Hilary Mantel, 2009)

43. The Swimming Pool Library (Alan Hollinghurst, 1988)

42. Brighton Rock (Graham Greene, 1938)

41. Dombey and Son (Charles Dickens, 1848)

40. Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland (Lewis Carroll, 1865) ✔

39.  The Sense of an Ending (Julian Barnes, 2011)

38. The Passion (Jeanette Winterson, 1987)

37. Decline and Fall (Evelyn Waugh, 1928)

36. A Dance to the Music of Time (Anthony Powell, 1951-1975)

35. Remainder (Tom McCarthy, 2005)

34. Never Let Me Go (Kazuo Ishiguro, 2005) ✔

33. The Wind in the Willows (Kenneth Grahame, 1908)

32. A Room with a View (EM Forster, 1908) ✔

31. The End of the Affair (Graham Greene, 1951) ✔

30. Moll Flanders (Daniel Defoe, 1722)

29. Brick Lane (Monica Ali, 2003)

28. Villette (Charlotte Brontë, 1853)

27. Robinson Crusoe (Daniel Defoe, 1719)

26. The Lord of the Rings (JRR Tolkien, 1954) ✔

25. White Teeth (Zadie Smith, 2000)

24. The Golden Notebook (Doris Lessing, 1962)

23. Jude the Obscure (Thomas Hardy, 1895) ✔

22. The History of Tom Jones, a Foundling (Henry Fielding, 1749)

21. Heart of Darkness (Joseph Conrad, 1899)

20. Persuasion (Jane Austen, 1817) ✔

19. Emma (Jane Austen, 1815) ✔

18. Remains of the Day (Kazuo Ishiguro, 1989) 

17. Howards End (EM Forster, 1910) ✔

16. The Waves (Virginia Woolf, 1931)

15. Atonement (Ian McEwan, 2001)

14. Clarissa (Samuel Richardson,1748)

13. The Good Soldier (Ford Madox Ford, 1915)

12. Nineteen Eighty-Four (George Orwell, 1949)

11. Pride and Prejudice (Jane Austen, 1813) ✔

10. Vanity Fair (William Makepeace Thackeray, 1848)

9. Frankenstein (Mary Shelley, 1818)

8. David Copperfield (Charles Dickens, 1850) ✔

7. Wuthering Heights (Emily Brontë, 1847) ✔

6. Bleak House (Charles Dickens, 1853)

5. Jane Eyre (Charlotte Brontë, 1847) ✔

4. Great Expectations (Charles Dickens, 1861) ✔

3. Mrs. Dalloway (Virginia Woolf, 1925)

2. To the Lighthouse (Virginia Woolf, 1927)

1. Middlemarch (George Eliot, 1874) ✔


Just about a quarter. But I don’t really feel much guilt, as many titles here are recent and therefore of little interest to me.  
If I were to name the 5 greatest British novels, I would probably say: 
  • Bleak House 
  • Wuthering Heights 
  • Middlemarch 
  • Emma 
  • Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking-Glass (as one book—yes, I’m cheating) 
These are all 19th century novels, I know, that’s my century. Perhaps my picks will be different when I have read Tom Jones and Tristram Shandy—we’ll see. But my choice for the greatest British novel, contrary to consensus, would be Bleak House. I know people praise Middlemarch for its psychological insight, rightly so, but my vote goes to Bleak House for its language, for its metaphors and motifs and patterns, for its multiple strands of stories and the two narrators, for its large canvas and intricate plot—Bleak House is, in my opinion, more inventive and artistically more interesting than Middlemarch
As we’re here, I might as well name my choices for 5 greatest Russian novels:
  • Anna Karenina 
  • War and Peace 
  • The Brothers Karamazov 
  • Dead Souls 
  • The Gift 
The last one is subject to change— I haven’t read Eugene Onegin, I haven’t read Demons, I haven’t read Oblomov, I haven’t read The Master and Margarita, I haven’t read Platonov, I haven’t read Andrei Bely, etc.—we’ll see. But the two Tolstoy novels and The Brothers Karamazov are going to stay there. 
I haven’t read enough to talk about French novels, so here are my 5 greatest American novels: 
  • Moby Dick 
  • Lolita 
  • Invisible Man
  • The Sound and the Fury 
  • The Age of Innocence 
This is an uncertain list, at least the last two. Moby Dick however is one of the three novels with which I’m most obsessed, and my pick for the Great American Novel. Planning to sail again with Ishmael this year. Lolita and Invisible Man are both great. For the last spot, on a different day, I might swap The Age of Innocence for The Portrait of a Lady, or The Scarlet Letter. But also, there are quite a few important American novels I haven’t read. 
Give me your top 5. We’re talking about greatest novels, not favourites. 
Also tell me about other countries too. 5 greatest Indian novels. Spanish. Italian. French. Japanese. Chinese. Whatever.  

22 comments:

  1. I love lists, too, although some have been greatly disappointing to me. (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/books/best-books-21st-century.html) Yet, how interesting to peruse your list and see what you have read and yet to read.

    I would agree with you about the best British books including Bleak House, the best Russian including Anna Karenina (one of my personal favorite books ever), and best French including Madame Bovary. I read quite a lot of Japanese literature and one of my favorite books is Kafka on the Shore by Haruki Murakami; I also am crazy about Jon Fosse for Norwegian Lit. I wouldn’t even know where to begin with American novels; they don’t much appeal to me although I am American by citizenship. Yet, as we know this world is not our home. 🤭

    How lovely to find your blog through Amateur Reader, and I look forward to reading your posts.

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    1. Welcome to my blog.
      I promise I do write seriously about books, these lists are... I don't know what madness took over me, lol.
      Where are you from?
      I do have a few favourite Japanese novels but haven't read enough to make a list of 5 greatest novels, except for The Tale of Genji.

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    2. I used to write seriously about books, and now I’m kind of wandering around trying to decide if I want to keep blogging or not…I am from the US, but my heart lies elsewhere. Possibly in Italy, hence the Italian reference to my blog’s
      name…

      The Tale of Genji is a classic I have yet to read.

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    3. Oh. You said you're an American citizen so I thought you're from elsewhere and became a naturalised citizen.
      As for blogging or not, I probably shouldn't say anything as I don't know you, but I think it's sad when so many people left the blog world and would just go to social media. It depends on what you want and what you do on your blog, really, but I think if you want to write seriously about literature, social media isn't the place, and it's a pity that the book blog world has declined over the years.

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  2. I was just looking at Code of the Woosters at the library. Very tempting.

    How was the Kureishi novel?

    My only problem with this list is that the dopes did not include the points. Village Voice polls, of albums, movies, you name it, were always transparent, showing the points. Once the internet was invented, they even showed all the individual ballots. That is the way this should be done.

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    1. Tom,
      Agreed.
      Have you read any Wodehouse? I forgot.
      The Kureishi novel I read so long ago, back when I was a different person, so I can't say. Pretty sure I have read 2 books of his, but I can't remember what the other one was.

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    2. Okay I now have Code of the Woosters at home. I have read several other Wodehouse books. Like, four, not a heap of them like some people.

      I assume the Kureishi, and the Wodehouse, received just one vote each. Unlikely anyway that the poll hit a vote threshold at exactly 100 books.

      I have never been a different person. I have always just been myself. Sad, maybe.

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    3. Has to be more than one vote.
      "The critics named 228 novels in all. These are the top 100."
      If I remember correctly, I read Kureishi before discovering Tolstoy and Russian literature and all that. The discovery of Tolstoy and Nabokov changed a lot for me.

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    4. 82 voters picked 10 novels each. 820 possibilities with 228 picks in the end. Typically in polls like these there is a highly concentrated top - wouldn't surprise me if Middlemarch was on 50 ballots - and a long tail of sinlegtons. Maybe in the 80s books are still getting two mentions? I doubt it though, and there is still the phony threshold.

      Plus there was a point system that the text does not describe completely. The #1 pick got 10 points. And #2 got - 9? 5? 1? Of course one could display the votes and points and clear this up. But then the end of the list would look more obviously like a random list of books.

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  3. UK:
    Tristram Shandy by Laurence Sterne
    Persuasion by Jane Austen
    Wuthering Heights by Emily Brontë
    Great Expectations by Charles Dickens
    Middlemarch by George Eliot

    Or, maybe:
    Clarissa by Samuel Richardson
    Vanity Fair by William Makepeace Thackeray
    Jude the Obscure by Thomas Hardy
    Nostromo by Joseph Conrad
    To the Lighthouse by Virginia Woolf

    Or… who knows?

    US:
    The Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne
    Moby-Dick by Herman Melville
    Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
    The Ambassadors by Henry James (written befire he officially naturalised as British)
    Absalom, Absalom! by William Faulkner

    France:
    Le Père Goriot by Honoréde Balzac
    Le Rouge et le Noir by Stendhal
    Madame Bovary by Gustave Flaubert
    Les Mosérables by Victor Hugo
    A la Recherche du Temps Perdu by Marcel Proust

    Russian:
    Eugene Onegin by Alexander Pushkin
    Dead Souls by Nikolai Gogol
    War and Peace by Leo Tolstoy
    The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky
    The Master and Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov

    … and, here you go, here are 5 Bengali novels, picked from a sample of not much larger:

    Sesher Kabita by Rabindranath Tagore
    Pather Panchali by Bibutibhushan Bandopadhyay
    Tithidore by Buddhadev Bose
    Chowringhee by Sankar
    Sei Samai by Sunil Gangopadhyay

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    1. I'm actually surprised that you named To the Lighthouse, Woolf hater.
      Also Great Expectations above Bleak House?
      Otherwise, good lists.

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  4. I just realised that the first half of what I’d written had got cut off. Well, I’m not writing all that over again. I had explained there that if we leave our own personal taste out of it, the only critierion of merit we have to work on that maky be regarded as “objective” is the consensus that had built up over time. (And hence my inclusioj of Virginia Woolf.) And once we do that, all such lists would tend towards uniformity.

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    1. Oh, that's strange. Was it all part of the same thing, or 2 separate comments?

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  5. I'm skeptical about lists also, but after seeing which books on the BBC list you haven't read I'm moved to recommend Elizabeth Bowen to you. She deserves more attention than she gets, and certainly better than #88! I'm not sure whether I prefer The Heat of the Day to The Death of the Heart; both are very fine.
    I'll also second the recommendation for The Master and Margarita.
    For the quality of the prose (the plot you may or may not find appealing), Nostromo is hard to beat.
    And for a screen version of a book I haven't read, the TV series made from Parade's End (with Benedict Cumberbatch and Adelaide Clemens).

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    1. Yeah, I'm not sure why Nostromo and Joseph Conrad in general have never appealed to me. Subject matter perhaps?
      Which translation of The Master and Margarita is good? i attempted it once but it was years ago.
      And thanks for the recommendations.

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    2. Apologies for the belated reply. I don't read Russian, so I'm not really qualified to judge. I read the Pevear/Volokhonsky version (Penguin), which seemed fine to me, but recently Language Hat had good things to say about Hugh Aplin's translation of Ivan Bunin, so Aplin's version of M&M might be worth looking at. Also, even if Conrad's big book topics have put you off (I had mixed feelings about Lord Jim and Under Western Eyes), I recommend trying "Victory." Less well known, but beautifully written and for once with a plausible main female character.

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    3. Okay. I don't particularly like Pevear and Volokhonsky, I find them clunky, and Gary Saul Morson has made me stay away from their translations forever hahaha.
      Thank you though. One day I will return to The Master and Margarita.
      I'm almost exploring the 18th century now. Just read some short books from other periods when needing a break.

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  6. Here are my five favorite Russian novels: War and Peace, The Brothers Karamazov, Anna Karenina, The Master and Margarita, Cancer Ward.

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    1. But do you think they're the greatest? At least among the ones you've read?

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    3. Yes, with the exception of Cancer Ward, I think these are the greatest of those I've read. Throw in Crime and Punishment to complete the list of five.

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